(#hzwqlla) @ocdtrekkie Yes, I think you're right. That didn't click for me at first, but I think I get it now.

(#hzwqlla) @prologic ohh I see. I think the difference between the two hadn't quite clicked. So in that case why wouldn't it be possible to have an ActivityPub bridge that forced yarn semantics (so to speak)? If someone sent you a reply via ActivityPub you wouldn't see it on yarn unless you followed their feed?

(#hzwqlla) @abucci I think you are talking the user side while @prologic is talking protocol side, and that means you're talking about wildly different things.

(#hzwqlla) The more I continue on this journey, the more I'm finding myself in a position where my original instincts of integrating with a "push"-based social network like Activity Pub was and is a bad idea. You just simply cannot control shit™ 😱

(#hzwqlla) @ocdtrekkie How in your experience (or can you bring in any experts) is this even fucking possible?! 🤔 😳

(#hzwqlla) @prologic right, right, that is concerning.

(#hzwqlla) @prologic Interesting. I think I interacted with that user today?

(#hzwqlla) @abucci What do you mean by "pedantic" exactly? > What would you, as an end user, do if someone stood up a yarn pod full of assholes who all collectively decided to twt at you all day every day? Right now (without Activity Pub) I wouldn't know. It wouldn't hurt me, I don't follow those "assholes", I don't have to. I don't pull their feed(s). However (which is the point ) if I have Activity Pub integrated and turned on, I have no choice now. Those same "assholes" can send me shit all day, every day, and there isn't anything I can do about it. My options then become to administratively block them at the server or OS level. What if I don't have administrative control?

(#hzwqlla) @abucci As an example of the type of problem I'm seeing (even at small scale, and it's only been a few weeks of things working): My pod has been posted this `Create+Note` from an Activity Pub actor that no-one here seems to follow: ``` $ bat https://twtxt.net/api/v1/debug/db "Token:$YARND_TOKEN" | jq -r '. | map_values(@base64d) | {Key: .key, Value: .value | fromjson} | .Value.Following | select(. != null) | .[]' | sort -u | grep -i VaporMarxPlus | wc -l 0 ``` From This is terrible 🤦‍♂️ I don't trust the protocol at this point.