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(#xbn6g5q) @deebs Yeah, it's a story as old as time, I remember when I joined KeyBase. It had private messages, place to link and verify your social media and keys, later they also added some weird crypto integration and than it got bought by some Chinese company and the privacy went right out the window. So I don't really trust these new services asking for a phone numbers and offering weird crypto integrations that no one ever asked for. I gave Signal a try and didn't really like it. Telegram was a tiny bit better, but still think it's not even work to keep it installed on my phone.

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@deebs Watch out for websites reviewing VPNs because many of them are owned by the same companies that operate the VPN services. I use Mullvad and I've heard good things about iVPN. They're very similar. Both have Australian servers. Neither of them require any personal information. Both accept cryptocurrency. Both claim they don't keep logs. Both have GPLv3 official clients but support standard OpenVPN or Wireguard clients. Both also support port forwarding. Mullvad is a bit cheaper unless you pay for long-term service with iVPN's standard plan.

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Autocrypt - Wikipedia Just reading in-depth and trying to understand the security model of Delta.Chat a bit more... There's a few things that _really_ concern me about how Delta.Chat which relies on Autocrypt work: - There is no Perfect Forward Secrecy - No verification of keys - Is therefore susceptible to Man-in-the-Middle attacks - Metadata is a **BIG** problem with Delta.Chat: - The `To` and `From` and `Date` are trackable by your Mail provider (_amongst many other headers_) Hmmm πŸ€” cc @deebs

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