(#7625tqq) @antonio @mckinley @prologic i did use Wireapp for a little bit. it is pretty polished and doesnt rely on phone numbers for connecting. The ownership had some shady changes but im not sure it ever led to issues in the security model.

(#7625tqq) @antonio @mckinley @prologic i did use Wireapp for a little bit. it is pretty polished and doesnt rely on phone numbers for connecting. The ownership had some shady changes but im not sure it ever led to issues in the security model.

@xuu @mckinley @prologic (#7625tqq) yeah that makes sense. I personally use smartphones but I can see your point. Right now I don't have a way around it, specially after I became a smartphone app developer. 😱

(#7625tqq) @prologic @antonio @xuu Personally, I don't trust smartphones not to give information to companies interested in that sort of thing. Most code they run is proprietary, so it's difficult to know. Monitoring network traffic only goes so far. Better to avoid the suspicious proprietary software altogether if you can, in my opinion.

(#7625tqq) @prologic @antonio @xuu Personally, I don't trust smartphones not to give information to companies interested in that sort of thing. Most code they run is proprietary, so it's difficult to know. Monitoring network traffic only goes so far. Better to avoid the suspicious proprietary software altogether if you can, in my opinion.

@mckinley @xuu @prologic (#7625tqq) Do you mean tracking as in location tracking? If so I think you can always turn off location service for the app, right? Or Am I missing something?

@xuu @prologic (#7625tqq) Session is interesting. I gave it a go too. But in the end I just ended up testing with a friend out of curiosity. I agree it is not as polished.

(#7625tqq) @xuu @prologic @antonio Session is definitely not well polished. People I know have had issues with messages syncing between devices. Plus, the only client I've been able to find is the official Electron one. I would probably be using Signal if it didn't require the use of a tracking device (smartphone) or a phone number.

(#7625tqq) @xuu @prologic @antonio Session is definitely not well polished. People I know have had issues with messages syncing between devices. Plus, the only client I've been able to find is the official Electron one. I would probably be using Signal if it didn't require the use of a tracking device (smartphone) or a phone number.

@antonio @xuu (#7625tqq) Yeah I tried session, but didn’t really like it much. it’s not as well polished as Signal 😥