@mckinley @prologic @xuu (#7625tqq) I really wish there would be better apps for XMPP.

@prologic @xuu @mckinley (#7625tqq) I haven't heard of Threema. And you are right you need to connect your phone to the desktop app to use Signal on the computer.

@prologic @mckinley @xuu (#7625tqq) I heard ppl were worried that Signal haven't update the source code upstream in a while. I mean I agree it is the best option but I am also still looking around.

(#7625tqq) @prologic @xuu @antonio I've also heard good things about Threema, but it's paid and, like Signal, requires the installation of the smartphone app (AGPL) to use. Unlike Signal, to my knowledge, you need access to and an internet connection on that phone when using their web client.

(#7625tqq) @prologic @xuu @antonio I've also heard good things about Threema, but it's paid and, like Signal, requires the installation of the smartphone app (AGPL) to use. Unlike Signal, to my knowledge, you need access to and an internet connection on that phone when using their web client.

@mckinley @xuu @antonio (#7625tqq) I feel that Signal is still the best choice right now for a number of reasons. open source, audited, run by a not-for-profit and there are rumors of them relaxing the requirement for phone number as “username”.

@prologic @mckinley @xuu (#7625tqq) That is the one. I used it before. Did some tests early on and wasn't impressed. The video calls lagged a bit. Perhaps they have improved it. I also would like to look into what happened with the ownership you mentioned. The last thing I want is to switch all family members to another Whatsapp.

(#7625tqq) I guess the app still requires and insists on some form of personal identifiable information 😳

@antonio @mckinley @xuu (#7625tqq) I guess Wire?

@antonio @mckinley @xuu (#7625tqq) Wireapp eh? I’ll check it out 👌